{"id":769,"date":"2009-12-26T22:47:19","date_gmt":"2009-12-26T20:47:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/?p=769"},"modified":"2009-12-27T18:30:15","modified_gmt":"2009-12-27T16:30:15","slug":"fain-experiment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/2009\/12\/fain-experiment\/","title":{"rendered":"Fain, experiment"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0102\u0103 .. de unde s\u0103 \u00eencep. M\u0103 pl\u00e2ngeam mai demult, acum multe posturi, pe vremea c\u00e2nd \u00eenc\u0103 eram pe Blogspot, c\u0103 n-avem un agregator decent de \u015ftiri. Pe-atunci speram la Yahoo s\u0103 vin\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 ceva relevant &#8211; da da, fix pula au f\u0103cut. \u00centre timp am descoperit blogurile, am descoperit alt\u0103 lume, problema a r\u0103mas la fel de stringent\u0103: tre&#8217; s\u0103 caut eu manual, s\u0103 sar din link \u00een link pentru a descoperi lume nou\u0103. Ceea ce-i greu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bun, \u00eentre timp s-a inventat <a href=\"http:\/\/ftw.ro\/\" target=\"_blank\">FTW.ro<\/a>, exact ce voiam eu. Doar c\u0103 m\u0103 deranja \u015fi \u00eenc\u0103 m\u0103 deranjeaz\u0103 c\u00e2teva lucruri, \u00eencep\u00e2nd cu numele \u00een limba englez\u0103 \u015fi termin\u00e2nd cu num\u0103rul mic al linkurilor prezente acolo. \u00cens\u0103 &#8211; principala chestie care nu-mi place la ei este c\u0103 traficul este artificial. Nu zic c-ar fi robo\u0163i, Doamne-fere\u015fte, zic c\u0103 ar fi aceea\u015fi m\u00e2n\u0103 de oameni care st\u0103 \u015fi cite\u015fte articole, voteaz\u0103, discut\u0103, fix aceea\u015fi f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 fie aditivi. Degeaba ai timpi de 4 minute per vizit\u0103, dac\u0103 te citesc 15 preceni. Bonus, comunitatea n-are minimul discern\u0103m\u00e2nt c\u00e2t <a href=\"http:\/\/polimedia.us\/trilema\/cached_articles\/FTW_are_nevoie_de_votul_tau_FTW.htm\" target=\"_blank\">s\u0103 voteze<\/a> articolele bune. E la \u00eenceput (m\u0103 rog, are c\u00e2\u0163iva ani, dar fie), poate fi mai bine, poten\u0163ial s\u0103 zicem c-ar fi, doar c\u0103 eu unul nu am timp de pierdut.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00centre timp a ap\u0103rut un alt agregator, anume <a href=\"http:\/\/polimedia.us\/fain\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fain<\/a>. N-are nici m\u0103car domeniu propriu, \u00eens\u0103 are un design func\u0163ional. Simplu. Cu oameni care comenteaz\u0103, voteaz\u0103, ofer\u0103 feedback. Sigur, povestea s-a l\u0103sat cu urlete, acuze \u015fi restul metodelor de a discuta civilizat din societatea rom\u00e2neasc\u0103, dar asta e alt\u0103 poveste; &#8220;despre competi\u0163ie \u015fi fair play&#8221; ar fi un subiect excelent de masterat \u00een Sociologie, spre exemplu. Ideea principal\u0103 a Fain&#8217;ului a fost de a aduce con\u0163inut, \u015fi a fost dus\u0103 la \u00eendeplinire chiar foarte repede. Kick-start \u00eei zice \u00een englez\u0103, de urm\u0103rit comentariile de la <a href=\"http:\/\/polimedia.us\/trilema\/2009\/concurs-de-august\/\" target=\"_blank\">concurs<\/a>, 30 de zile au fost de-ajuns. La final: vizitatori constan\u0163i, user-base, article-base, pe scurt un vizitator nou nu poposea \u00eentr-un loc \u00een construc\u0163ie.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ce m-a frapat a fost acela\u015fi lucru pe care l-au observat \u015fi <a href=\"http:\/\/deceblog.net\/2009\/08\/un-agregator-romanesc-aparent-de-succes\/\" target=\"_blank\">restul oamenilor<\/a>: vizitatorii de pe Fain stau foarte pu\u0163in. Ce-s alea 10-20 de secunde? \u015ei de ce pleac\u0103 imediat? Sigur, s-au g\u0103sit destui care s\u0103 spun\u0103 imediat c\u0103 e fake traficul, c\u0103-s robo\u0163i, c\u0103 nu se poate. Normal, aici nu-s m\u0103mici protectoare s\u0103 stea s\u0103 citeasc\u0103 neroziile tuturor. Eu unul chiar mi-am cronometrat timpul pe care-l petrec citind &#8211; e sub 30 de secunde pe majoritatea articolelor sub 1000 de cuvinte, \u015fi undeva sub 2 minute dac\u0103 m\u0103 roade s\u0103 citesc \u015fi comentariile. Mi se par normali timpii. Ah da, \u015fi fix la fel fac \u015fi eu, citesc \u015fi ies, dac\u0103 a\u015f sta s\u0103 explorez fiecare blog pe care-l v\u0103d \u00een cale ar trebui s\u0103 m\u0103 pl\u0103teasc\u0103 cineva pentru timpul pierdut.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00cens\u0103: <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.adrian.mihalcioiu.ro\/2009\/11\/doing-fainpolimediaus.html\" target=\"_blank\">Adrian Mih\u0103lcioiu<\/a> vine \u015fi declar\u0103 c\u0103 la el vizitatorii stau ceva mai mult, pu\u0163in peste 3 minute (trafic contorizat, that is oamenii care au vizitat mai mult de doua pagini, fara bounced). Enorm chiar. Da&#8217; el e precen cu popescul, nu se pune, hai s\u0103 presupunem c\u0103 minte or something; se poart\u0103. Anyway, azi b\u00e2ntuiam \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103tor prin Analytics, \u015fi mi-am amintit c\u0103 am un <a href=\"http:\/\/polimedia.us\/fain\/story.php?title=somnul-daimons\" target=\"_blank\">articol<\/a> b\u0103gat pe Fain, acum aproape o lun\u0103.\u00a0 Cu 19 voturi sigur a prins \u015fi front page. Ce zice Analytics despre oamenii care au citit asta?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_770\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-770\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/somnul.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-770\" title=\"analytics fain\" src=\"https:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/somnul-300x146.jpg\" alt=\"click pentru full size\" width=\"300\" height=\"146\" srcset=\"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/somnul-300x146.jpg 300w, http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/12\/somnul.JPG 968w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-770\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">click pentru full size<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">P\u0103i zice c-au venit 450 de oameni. \u015ei c\u0103 au stat aproape 2 minute s\u0103 citeasc\u0103 ditamai articolul. Sigur, vasta lor majoritate a plecat imediat, dar asta e alt\u0103 discu\u0163ie. All in all, din punctul meu de vedere e un rezultat bunicel.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Concluzia mea: internetul nu e mama noastr\u0103. Din milioanele de rom\u00e2ni cu acces la internet, c\u00e2teva zeci de mii sub educa\u0163i \u015fi \u015ftiu ce-s alea bloguri, forumuri sau alte platforme. Restul probabil sunt mai pu\u0163in informa\u0163i, v\u0103d un link, fac click pe el, citesc \u015fi \u00eenchid pagina sau apas\u0103 pe &#8220;back&#8221;. Vrei s\u0103 stea omul s\u0103 citeasc\u0103? Solu\u0163ia e simpl\u0103, scrie bine, nu doar de umplutur\u0103. Vrei s\u0103 \u00eencerce \u015fi altceva omul? Educ\u0103-l. Nu mi-e clar cum se poate face asta, probabil va dura mult timp, \u015fi de altfel nici internau\u0163ii din alte \u0163\u0103ri nu-s cu mult mai educa\u0163i. Unii <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ\" target=\"_blank\">nu fac diferen\u0163a<\/a> \u00eentre un browser \u015fi un motor de c\u0103utare, spre exemplu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Back to work, people, back to work. Avem ce.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0102\u0103 .. de unde s\u0103 \u00eencep. M\u0103 pl\u00e2ngeam mai demult, acum multe posturi, pe vremea c\u00e2nd \u00eenc\u0103 eram pe Blogspot, c\u0103 n-avem un agregator decent de \u015ftiri. Pe-atunci speram la Yahoo s\u0103 vin\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 ceva relevant &#8211; da da, fix pula au f\u0103cut. \u00centre timp am descoperit blogurile, am descoperit alt\u0103 lume, problema a &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-769","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-fara","7":"anons"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/769","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=769"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/769\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":772,"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/769\/revisions\/772"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=769"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=769"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/daimon.me\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=769"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}